New GrowMap Logo
Creating a consistent brand across all of your interactions both online and off is critical to your success.
The primary method for doing this is the use of a distinctive logo design. Your logo creates an immediate image – that all important first impression – responsible for how someone feels about your brand.
Done well, your logo makes your business instantly recognizable wherever it appears.
Logo styles vary greatly depending on the niche you operate in and the size of your business. There is a distinct difference between the types of logos used by Major Corporations and businesses that interact with them and logos that will appeal to marketers, creative types and in specific niches. This difference is the first of many reasons for the wide range of prices charged by logo designers.
Do you need a $50 logo or a $1000+ logo design package? Read on to find out.
Smashing Magazine has two articles that clearly define what factors are involved in the most effective Logo Designs. Their 10 Common Mistakes in Logo Design is critical reading for any business that goes beyond a Web site. It spells out common mistakes an inexpensive designer is likely to make. More importantly, it explains what is necessary to transition a logo design for other uses – and THIS is where the major differences come in!
Rather than write about the details, I recommend you read the excellent article 12 Essential Rules to Follow When Designing a Logo. It provides excellent background on how to ensure a logo design is memorable and suits your business. Also be sure to read What Makes a Good Logo by David Airey because he adds additional factors not mentioned in the other posts. He wrote:
“My good friend Lee Newham (Twitter) taught me about five elements that can be seen in every iconic logo:
- It’s describable
- It’s memorable
- It’s effective without colour
- It’s scalable i.e. works when just an inch in size
- It’s appropriate
The image below from 5 Useful Logo Design Tips (on David’s site in a guest post by Jacob Cass clearly illustrates how it meets the above criterion:
Before you have a logo designed I strongly recommend reading David’s post and the others I am including in the body of this post. Each was carefully chosen to convey specific information you will need to make the best decision FOR YOU. Each person’s needs are different and the purpose of this post is to make it obvious what level of logo design to select for your project.
One tip I did not see in those excellent articles I shared recently jumped out at me when I read about the new logo design for the Limeade Studio Graphic Designer blog. He wrote:
“I made a firm decision to stick with colors that work in both CMYK and RGB. This really limits brighter greens and blues. Yet, the colors I have chosen are brilliant and bold.”
Beyond the design itself there is a major difference in deliverables between logo designers. If all you need is an image to use on your Web site you can consider the lower priced options (but seriously consider finishing this post first to make sure you won’t have regrets if you do). Any business that intends to use their logo for other purposes will have additional requirements that are unlikely to be provided by lower end design companies.
You may want to use your logo on:
- Printed materials (stationary, catalogs, mailings, etc.)
- Advertising (color and most likely black and white too)
- Signs (on your building, at events, billboards, trade show booths, etc.)
- On promotional items (corporate logo pens, business card holders, mousepads, etc.)
This is an important consideration BEFORE you select a designer because these other logo applications require your new logo be provided in different formats. They make color, font choice, and especially scalability more critical. Logo designs often use modified fonts which can be extremely difficult to recreate if you want more materials later.
TYPICAL LOGO DESIGN DIFFERENCES:
- Low End Designers:
- May charge as little as $30-$50 with $100 being common although some may charge up to $500+
- Are far less likely to be aware of all the factors brought up in the posts above
- May not do background research on you and your company
- May not interview you or ask you to fill out an interview document
- May skip creating preliminary sketches
- More likely to “borrow” logo ideas or use stock art
- May only provide images in Rastor (.jpg .gif .png) file formats commonly used in PhotoShop instead of Vector based images (.ai and .eps) created by programs such as Adobe Illustrator
- Less likely to provide images in grayscale or black and white (b&w)
- Consider using inexpensive logo design options ONLY if all you need is a logo for a Web page and a matching Avatar and Favicon or you manage to locate a Logo Designer in this price range that provides what more expensive designers do. If you need logo images for any other purposes be sure they will be provided in the appropriate formats and the design meets those requirements too. Remember that the results of attempting to match your logo later may be less than desirable.
- Mid-Range Logo Designers:
- Prices range from $1000-$5000
- The number of unique concepts created and the number of revisions strongly affect the price quoted
- Should use an interview process or form to determine what type of logo will fit your business and your preferences
- More likely to research your industry, competitors and audience
- Have a deeper portfolio making it obvious what their design style is
- Should use Industry Standard Logo Design practices including providing both Rastor and Vector file types
- Can create logos that are more unique and memorable
- Will modify the fonts used 90% of the time to make your text distinctive
- Usually provide additional deliverables such as:
- style guides (specs for using your logo)
- color codes (RGB CMYK) – see also Color Fundamentals
- multiple file formats
- b&w along with color & grayscale
- style guides (specs for using your logo)
- High End Logo Designers:
- Prices range from $5000 to $15,000
- Like all specialties, Logo Designers command higher prices because they are more talented, have more experience, have more extensive portfolios, have won design awards or other recognition, or work with a more upscale clientele
- Firms and Logo Design Agencies:
- Prices range from $15,000 up to $250,000 or more
- Normally work with largest Corporations, Fortune 100/500
- Prices they can command are based on experience, industry recognition and current client list
Before you hire a logo designer:
- Know what you need based on the above information
- Review portfolios and ensure their designs match the type and style you desire for your own logo
- Ask specifically what items you will receive in which file types. Vector designs are preferred over only Rastor file types. (If you do not have an in-house graphics department be sure to request additional file types you can open on your PC.) Ask which file types are included and which incur extra charges
- Determine how many concepts and revisions you need. The more of each the higher the cost will be. Too few and you may not be satisfied with the results. Too many and the cost can be higher than necessary. Consider asking if you can pay for a smaller number and then pay extra for additional concepts or revisions. It is only fair that your designer be compensated for any additional work required.
- Read online testimonials or reviews regarding not only their design skills but also how they communicate, their work processes, and whether they complete projects in a timely manner.
- Remember to ask if there will be an additional charge for other file types.
- You will need a matching Avatar (for Social Networking) and Favicon. Ask if they are included or how much additional they will cost.
- Plan to really spend some time and invest thought into answering the questions during the interview process. The more specific your answers the better your results would be. I was very impressed with the 1981 Logo Design Questionnaire for gathering my input on the new logo for GrowMap. By the time I had finished it I had a much sharper idea of what logo designs I preferred and which I did not care for – and more importantly so did he.
- You can get a good idea about what various Logo Designers are charging by reading through some of the comments in How Much Does Logo Design Cost. Get another take on what I have shared above reading How Much is a Great Logo Worth?
Now that you know what to ask you can move on to How to Choose a Logo Designer. When I began researching Logo Design I wrote Freelancer Challenges – Logo Graphic Designers. That post lead to several logo designers providing me with answers to my many questions – especially Joshua Geiger, the designer behind NineteenEightyOne.
Anyone who reads me knows how many questions I have about the what and why. Until I thoroughly understand a subject I can not clearly explain it equally well to those who have no background in the subjects involved, in this case graphics, file types, color codes, scalability and so on. A major reason for consultant dissatisfaction is this disparity of knowledge.
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A small business owner who barely uses computers has different questions than a Corporate client with a Graphic Design department. Logo Designers who regularly deal with a certain type of client will not provide the information required by others with different skills. Some already know what scalable (looks good no matter how small or large), vectorized (doesn’t look grainy) or CMYK (type of color codes used for printing) or .ai (Adobe Illustrator file format) refers to and the others don’t.
Joshua has done something that high end designers do and that all Logo Designers should seriously consider. He has provided his Logo Designer process online for us so we know exactly what to expect when working with him. Notice the detail he provides:
- how long each step will take
- what the process includes (research, support)
- confirmation that no clipart is used
- exactly what files are included
- how many concepts and revisions are included
- links to the questionnaire and payment method
- contact information
What you can not tell by reading his site is the exceptional communication skills Joshua has. While creating the new GrowMap logo I knew exactly where we were in the process, what he needed from me, and what he was providing. This may be a larger area of concern in logo design than you might think.
Some designers are intensely creative and visual and are not nearly as comfortable or talented at writing, communicating, time management and running a business. If you visit many design sites you’ll notice that some have almost no text on them. Some designers have commented that they would not read long posts or could not understand my previous post on Freelancing Logo Designers. That is unfortunate as they won’t be benefiting from what I relate here.
Clearly, Joshua was an excellent fit for me to work with because he was willing to answer all of my questions and understood that my intention was not only to take GrowMap to the next level with a professionally designed logo; it was also to help my readers know precisely how to select a designer that best fits their needs.
GrowMap could have gotten by with an inexpensive graphic design because my intentions are 100% firm on being online only. I doubt many other businesses could say the same. Are you positive you will never publish a catalog, sponsor a local event, be featured in a newspaper or magazine (oops – maybe even I was not 100% there), order stationary, buy promotional gifts with your logo on them (got me again), or have any other reason to use a different format.
More importantly, I love the new logo. It even passes all of David Airey’s tests of being describable, memorable, effective without color, scalable, and appropriate. That sounds like another blog post. I wonder how many would be interested in seeing the answers I gave on the questionnaire, the various other concepts and colors, what we chose and how we then developed the logo into the header you see here today? Let me know in the comments if you would like me to post it.
Now that you know that creating a consistent brand across all of your interactions both online and off is critical to your success AND you know what to ask I am certain you will find the perfect logo designer for your needs. I can highly recommend Joshua Geiger’s Nineteen Eighty One Logo Design for your consideration.
I challenge Logo Designers to provide all of this information online and develop your own process. Establish relationships with people outside your niche who are in a position to recommend your services. If you are also talented at writing, follow David Airey’s lead and provide quality information for the public on what you do. I know of David because of his writing – not his design work – and he has more visibility than most logo designers because of his articles and posts.
What designers who are not writers can do is what Joshua did. He recognized an opportunity to raise awareness of what he does, assist businesses in understanding how to hire a Logo Designer, and have his work featured at GrowMap, a blog whose whole reason for being is to assist businesses to grow. This is a strong potential market for mid-range logo designers.
Although we could, we choose not to charge for offering proven strategies to small businesses. We do this because many of them either can not afford us (especially during the current economic climate) OR even more importantly – they simply do not yet understand the value of what we offer. Because of this we do not have resources to spend; however, we have something that can be far more valuable: time.
We spend that time answering questions, communicating at Twitter, FriendFeed, cliKball and elsewhere, and in providing personal recommendations. Joshua knew that and saw the benefits of providing our new logo. He also knew that we always tell the truth and as of this moment although he knows we are very happy with his work he does not know what will be in this post and won’t until he reads it after it is published.
We guaranteed him credit for his work including a valuable link in the footer. (Footer and sidebar links appear on every page of a site so the larger the site the more incoming links you receive and the more valuable they are for search engine rankings.) He knew we were going to do this post and he would receive at least one link in the post.
We knew his work and since we will see it far more than anyone else we would not have gone ahead if we were not certain we would like the results he provided. We did not know the process would be so excellent or we would learn so much that we can now share with our readers.
We have learned that small businesses really need more than just a logo. They need a consistent image in many formats from a designer who really understands all we have shared above. There could be inexpensive designers out there who are this qualified and if we come across them we will let you know.
We know that Joshua has these abilities, charges at the lowest end of the mid-range logo designers, and can provide complete graphic support of his logo designs for small businesses – and they are our target audience and who most need such support.
You can see his work in his portfolio (click the arrows to see more) and also where it has been featured:
Showcase Galleries:
Articles & Interviews:
We leave you with a quote from Joshua:
“We need to keep your “brand” seamless across all mediums. It is best to have your logo designer create all the collateral materials. Only the designer really knows exactly how everything should look.”
If you have a small business consider investing in a Logo Image that gives you the look of a major corporation without having to spend anywhere near what they do. If you do Logo Design, consider focusing at least some of your efforts on small businesses. Also consider raising awareness of your work by trading a custom design to a deserving Non-Profit or high profile blog in exchange for attribution, incoming links, and recommendations.
WHY INVEST IN LOGO DESIGN?:
Is anything in this post unclear? Do you have any questions that were not answered? Are you a Logo Designer with something to add or another viewpoint? Please consider leaving a comment.
If you are a logo designer you are also invited to leave a brief bio and additional links to your portfolio, process, or other relevant information. Comments with additional links in them do usually end up needing moderation; however, I will approve all real comments with relevant links.
LOGO GALLERIES:
- Logo Moose for Logo Design Inspiration ~ Interview with LogoMoose Creator Dirk Leys explains its purpose.

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Twitter: @thespotter
Great points on logo. I have been delaying creating one but perhaps now is as good time as any! Thanks for sharing the insights
.-= Alex@Make Money Blogging´s last blog ..Make Money Blogging Blueprint =-.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hi Alex,
There is never a better time than now. Learning about logo design turned into an enormous project with a very long post to match. My hope is that it will be of great benefit to anyone who needs a logo designer or intends to create their own and also to encourage designers to work with small businesses.
Judging by your subscriber numbers not having a logo doesn’t seem to have held you back but having one could certainly make your blog stand out better. I am looking forward to having Derek make mine more shareable so I can better brand my posts at FriendFeed and elsewhere.
Any blogger with a following can really benefit by using their logo or Avatar to brand what gets shared on sites like FriendFeed. Regular posts are easy to overlook but those with your logo on them are sure to be easily seen.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Create and Install Favicons =-.
My logo was basically done with “off the shelf” components, basically is a stock image of a wedge of cheese, in a “Ghostbusters” style “No Cheese Zone” motif.
Originally, we were using the “Ministry Of Sound” logo from the UK, but gradually phased out their icon (it had a black background but very similar) to the new one in use today (its also my Gravatar).
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hi Matt,
How elaborate, unique, or professional a logo needs to be depends greatly on what your business is. I suspect many people expect DJs to be less formal and a little “out there” even when they do weddings for a living.
Businesses that deal with Corporations or operate in industries that are old-fashioned or serious and judge images sternly will need a more traditional style of logo.
Every business, blog, and industry is different. One example I used of a very distinctive image that works for another blogger but wouldn’t work for me is the logo used at http://www.johncow.com/.
I don’t know if Jason Katzenback’s personality is accurately represented by his image but it certainly is memorable and conveys a very specific type of attitude.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Add Your Business to Merchant Circle =-.
Designing a logo or getting a logo designed is an art in itself, how much detailing goes into designing a logo ask the people who deign it. Its very important to have a logo which suits your business,because a logo becomes the identity of your company.The description given above has described the process in a very informative manner, any one who wants to get a logo design and dont know where to begin gets his answer here.Some of the very famous logo i like is that of ferrari as it simply tells people that one who drive ferrari are unique, then coke also has a very strong recognition of its logo,Intel’s is simple yet powerful.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello Amy,
Many don’t realize that dozens of hours can go into creating one special graphic image. The two graphic guys who worked on a custom logo for my very first Web site put about 60 hours into it!
Logos are like blogs. Most people only see the finished product and have no idea how much effort, experience, skill, and time went into getting to what they see. That is why I wrote this post about logo design.
I wanted businesses to better understand the process and how to evaluate logo designers. Until you appreciate the expertise behind superior results it is not easy to justify the higher cost to obtain it.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Create and Install Favicons =-.
This is great and very detailed advice. One thing I noticed when I was trying to come up with a new logo for my business was that the designer had a really hard time understanding that the logo has to look good in all situations – online, in print, on a shirt, on a large banner or as a tiny icon. I went through very many proofs before finally deciding on a logo. It really is that important.
BTW, you should know that KeywordLuv doesn’t work after editing a comment. I had to go back and edit a typo and it caused the entire Name field to be linked instead of just the part after the @ symbol. -Jack
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello Jack,
There are many people who have rudimentary skills but lack expertise and have not thoroughly researched best practices in their field. Your comments point out exactly the difference between many of the inexpensive logo designers and logo design contests and professional logo designers.
If someone just can not afford the best they can use the information in this post to make sure they select a logo that will work for all uses. I hope it also serves to help designers increase their skills and learn to communicate better with their clients.
I am really glad to see another business owner commenting in this blog. I have been able to reach bloggers much more easily than small businesses and am always seeking ways to reach them. Do you recall how you found me?
I am one of half a dozen writers participating in the Merchant Circle Guest Blogger Series and I hope that will bring many more business owners here.
Thank you for letting me know about the issue with editing comments. I edit mine all the time and have not run into that issue but I have seen other comments where the link had that problem. The plugins for CommentLuv, KeywordLuv and editing come from separate developers so I don’t know if we can fix that on our end or not. I’ll ask Derek.
I have noticed that sometimes editing a comment causes WordPress to add nofollow to it; however, there is another plugin that removed nofollow so I believe they’re all fine. This blog has been DoFollow Certified and they did not find any nofollow links in my comments. I’ve asked Derek to add the Certified logo. I also manually remove nofollow if I come across any while editing.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Create and Install Favicons =-.
Thanks for the effort you have taken to put together all the information that is required for Logo Design.When we identify a brand with its logo thats the success of the graphic designer. Lots of people today design logo but do not put in that detailing which requires.But again its depends upon the kind of money you want to spend on it.Moreover it should be as such that every stationary on which logo is required to be printed,should be aligned with it and appears pleasing to eyes also.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello Dimtri,
Logo designers like Joshua provide complete logo services including designing stationary and any other office supplies and advertising pieces a company uses. That is why I emphasize that a business must consider all of their logo design needs when they select a designer.
Most of the inexpensive logo design companies provide an image in one or more particular formats but not a complete design package.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..DMOZ Now Largely a Waste of Time =-.
Twitter: @12
Wow. I’d have to say this is the definitive post about everything you every wanted to know about getting a logo (if you have half a day to read it
)! And Joshua did a great job on your logo.
I’m a little slow, but can you say if this was a barter exchange (the logo for this post) or if you paid something for it (and how much), and how much would Joshua normally charge to create a logo like this. I really like your logo! ~ Steve, the logo-less trade show guru
.-= Steve@trade show guru´s last blog ..Does Blogging Regularity Matter? =-.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hi Steve,
Since you’re one of my regular readers you know that when I research something I like to do a comprehensive job of it. Although I would prefer my posts not be quite this long it is a complicated subject I have seen explained completely anywhere else.
I have often recommended that those with skills need to collaborate with individuals and businesses that are in a position to recommend them and send them clients. Instead of focusing on making a living, I spend almost all of my time assisting those who do not have the money to hire consultants, driving traffic to deserving content, and identifying and recommending specialists.
Joshua offered to design a logo for GrowMap in exchange for credit in the footer (still coming – I rely on Derek for that type of work) which will provide him with a dofollow incoming link from every page in this blog. He also knew there would be at least one link in a post about logo design and that I would be a better position to send specific work his way.
Since I liked his first concept and was in no big rush his normal rate for designing a logo like mine would be $750. Two design ideas would have been $1000 and rates go up depending on how many more designs someone requests him to develop.
I sent comments on many logos with links to them in response to his questionnaire and gave him some general ideas what the logo might contain. His idea went beyond what I suggested and if someone had described it or told me the colors I would not have thought I would like it.
Seeing it in multiple color variations though I really did like it – especially the final version – so for me that one idea was all I needed.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Create and Install Favicons =-.
Twitter: @_1981_
@GrowMap – Well, thanks so much for the great words and write-up! This is a very good source for people who might need a logo but don’t know much about the process. You have given out so much great information! The more people know about what a logo really is and what it is supposed to do, the better.
@Steve – Hi! I’m glad you like the new GrowMap logo! If I can help you out with anything, please feel free to shoot me an email from the contact page of my site.
Thanks again, and great post!
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello Joshua,
Even though I have chatted with other logo designers in the past and had read several excellent posts on the subject, until I decided to research it thoroughly I still did not have a clear idea what was really involved, what Vector graphics were and what file types were used for which purposes.
I am certain the main question most business owners will have is why pay $1000 when so many create logos for $50 so that was my focus. I wanted each reader to be able to select precisely the level of logo design necessary for their purposes.
All of the input on the new logo has been positive so far and I really feel it has made a HUGE difference both here and wherever my Avatar appears. It even looks great as a Favicon. With all the time I spend online, no one looks at it as much as I do so it has a positive effect on me every day.
Thank you for recognizing this opportunity. I am certain it will turn out to be an excellent investment of your time.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..Freelancer Challenges – Logo Graphic Designers =-.
Twitter: @davidairey
Thanks again for featuring my blog posts here, and also for taking the time to find Lee’s LinkedIn profile URL. Much appreciated.
.-= David Airey´s last blog ..Compelling comments and ulterior motives =-.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Welcome to GrowMap David,
We have interacted elsewhere but not here. Your articles were important to my understanding and add so much to this post, especially those five points and the image that clearly illustrates what they mean.
Lee was something of a challenge to locate online. His LinkedIn profile seemed to be the best choice of what I found.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..Freelancer Challenges – Logo Graphic Designers =-.
Twitter: @davidairey
Lee’s in a top design position in an English firm, so doesn’t really have his own website. You can find him on Twitter, though (a new profile that’s more geared towards a small side project of his).
http://twitter.com/whatifsydenham
.-= David Airey´s last blog ..Henri Ehrhart logo design process =-.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Thank you David. I added Les’s Twitter link to the post.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Add Your Free Business Listing to infoUSA =-.
In my quest for more clients I’ve registered on Elance, and it’s HELL for true designers there. All these people bid $50 for a logo, and the people looking for the logo are only willing to pay $50 – and they end up getting what they payed for. Sure, I’ve made a little money there, but it’s hardly worth the time spent bidding and time spent on the project.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello Porec,
One of the major reasons for this post is to help blog and business owners understand the difference between a $50 logo from a contest site or job bidding site and working with a professional designer.
Your time would be better spent developing a reputation in a particular niche. For example, if you have designed several logos for apartments or resorts put up a site for “apartment logos” or “resort logos” and become active in forums or Social Networks where the owners of those types of businesses find answers to their Web site related challenges.
Find a power blogger in that niche that needs a logo and offer to design their logo in exchange for a link with your choice of anchor text in the footer and a post explaining that you know that industry and specialize in creating logos that look great on their Web site, in Social Networking sites, on the huge signs outside their businesses and on their stationary.
Instead of being just another logo designer work to become “the” logo designer to Apartment building owners, Resort owners, or any other niche you’re interested in. Many management types are very competitive. If the businesses they compete with get a logo they rest of them will run out and get one too.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Create and Install Favicons =-.
Twitter: @12
hey growmap,
I thought this post would do well.
You rank # 2 on google for “memorable logo” and #3 for “how to design a memorable logo”. Content is KING! I’ll be interested if you keep track of and let us know how much traffic this post gets. Something tells me that your link to Joshua and (your recommendation) could turn into a “golden link” for him.
~ Steve, the impressed trade show guru
.-= Steve@trade show guru´s last blog ..Spam My Blog – Win a Free Link =-.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hi Steve,
Although it may be somewhat too long even for me it has all the details in it that blog and business owners need to know about the difference between a $50 logo and professional logo design.
I don’t blame businesses for wanting to save money where they can; however, sometimes going cheap gets really expensive. I hope this post helps each person make the best decision.
I suspect one of the reasons it ranks is that someone I don’t know named cassiboff shared it at StumbleUpon (SU). SU can be really powerful for driving traffic – at least it was in the old days when I was a power user there (before eBay bought them and then sold them back to the founders).
If anyone uses StumbleUpon they’ll find that reviews can push your content up in the ratings. Anyone interested in doing a good turn for GrowMap can review this post there. Feel free to Stumble or review anything else.
I created a new account there and will write about how to use StumbleUpon once I find out what has changed. I already know that the one thing I really liked there has been removed. Perhaps the founders will restore it.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Create and Install Favicons =-.
That’s some really in depth information on logo design. I think anyone who reads your post carefully will know exactly what he needs and what to ask of his logo designers. A very well researched and written piece.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hi Jack,
Thank you. As often happens I did not realize how complicated logo design was until I started researching it. I am glad you added your link here so any readers of this post can visit you to read additional information about branding and logo design plus viral marketing and video production.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Add Your Free Business Listing to infoUSA =-.
Great article, people shouldn’t underestimate the power of a good logo. I’ve been running through some designs for a current project, but it’s not as easy as it seems to come up with one.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello Ste,
Thank you. There are so many great sites that are ready to step up their game with either a professionally designed logo, a better design, or both. Many do still judge sites on how they look and not pulling it all together can hold you back.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Add Your Business to Merchant Circle =-.
i think it points out the professionalism and the company first view
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello SEO,
It really made a difference here and is far more important for businesses.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..DMOZ Now Largely a Waste of Time =-.
Twitter: @pemasarinternet
You have good logo, i like the sign up.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello Buat,
Thank you. We are extremely pleased with the logo, the process we went through to have it designed, and how well our logo designer communicated. Should anyone wish to contact him he now has a credit at the foot of the page to make it easy to click through to his site.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Add Your Free Business Listing to infoUSA =-.
yes, a good logo is important but it doesn’t mean that every small company needs to blow a fortune on it. i have used logotournament.com several times and been very happy with the results.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Welcome Tim,
Hopefully this post will assist every business – whether they decide to go with a $50 logo or a $1000+ logo package – to select only what they need and receive the most value for their money.
I also hope it will give logo designers ideas on how to communicate well and encourage them to design their own business process.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Create and Install Favicons =-.
Twitter: @uprinting
I’ve red Airey and Smashing mag’s do’s and dont’s before. Very useful tips indeed. While I am not in the business of making logos or designing, I appreciate a good logo and design because I look up to artist who can create very cool designs.
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Twitter: @GrowMap
Welcome UPrinting,
All my regular readers know I am severely graphics-challenged and primarily a wordsmith; however, like you, I appreciate great design and talented artists. Having read David Airey’s posts over the years I knew what to research and the results (our new logo here) really speak for themselves.
When your clients order business cards or stationary have you ever considered offering them business card holders or pens? There is a minimum order but they can even get matching logo business card cases.
I work with the owner of Executive Gift Shoppe and his affiliate program would be an excellent fit for your business.
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Twitter: @alrayesweb
i think it points out the professionalism and the company first view
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello Al,
Yes, it does and that is why I regularly recommend that every site have a logo and that the logo and an Avatar that is consistent across all of Cyberspace. Every day I visit blogs and even store and business sites that still have no logo at all. Even a poorly designed one is better than none.
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Hi David,
thanks for the mention.
I haven’t logged in for a bit…been busy!
Cheers
Lee
Twitter: @GrowMap
Welcome Lee,
I included you because of David’s mention. Your points combined with David’s excellent image bring those points home clearly even for those of us who are graphically-challenged.
When he provided your Twitter account I added it to the post. Some who read it may be interested in contacting either you or David for your services. This provides a way for them to do that.
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Twitter: @jamiedunnecom
What a great post.. well planned and full of helpful information.
I am now able to tell my Logo designer EXACTLY what I want for my next project..
Second time Ive found exactly what I want on this blog after googling for the info.
Regards,
Jamie D
http://jamidunne.com
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Twitter: @GrowMap
Thank you Jamie. It is good to have my extensive research and comprehensive a posts appreciated and to know that they are getting well indexed. Perhaps you want to scan the categories in the right sidebar and see what else is here and consider subscribing to our RSS or Subscribing via email</a.
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Twitter: @lhrowley
Great post – I agree that a good, memorable logo is well worth the investment. Of course, many internet marketers can’t spend thousands of dollars on a logo, especially when they first start out, so I’m glad you outlined a variety of options here.
Also, thanks for the help getting the BW logo on FriendFeed and StumbleUpon Photoblog!
Lee
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Twitter: @GrowMap
Hi Lee,
I really like your new logo. Ask Derek how to make it shareable. Right now it is too large for StumbleUpon and that could also be why I can’t share it at FriendFeed. If you look at my logo here, his at Derek Semmler dot com or the one at NoBogies you’ll see that only part of each header is shared.
If you have accounts at FriendFeed or StumbleUpon you can share the images to see what I mean. If you don’t I strongly encourage you to use them. You can add your feed at FriendFeed and gain many new readers and nothing drives traffic as well as StumbleUpon.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..How to Optimize Your PPC Advertising to Benefit YOU =-.
Twitter: @saurabhsnv
To make a brand its really important t o design a fantastic logo. i will go for the smashing magazine and check the mistakes in logo design.
A logo is the face of an organization.How you recognize a business even when you are busy with your work is a simple example of this.Logo provides identity to your organization.The points above are exhaustive and provide valuable information.Good work indeed
Twitter: @GrowMap
Thank you.
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Twitter: @saurabhsnv
For a website a wonderful logo is must. wonderful points given .i will keep use of it.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello Saurabh,
It is up to Web designers to share this kind of information with their clients. When I recommend Derek do a Wordpress installation for a business they have the option of having a graphic designer develop their logo or having Derek do what he can.
Derek is very talented and has done well with our blog designs but a business should seriously consider having a specialist design their logo. While what Derek designed for our Golf Store and blog is effective it wouldn’t really work for a company logo.
.-= Gail @ Social Media Marketing´s last blog ..MEME: BizLuv in Support of Small Businesses =-.
wow, so cool, you could make a short booklet out of this post. So many useful logo designing tips, exactly what i was looking for, how to get a professional logo
Thanks a lot!
Twitter: @GrowMap
Thank you James. Maybe I should turn it into an ebook and offer it as a download. Whenever someone like me who has been in computers for over three decades has so many questions I know that all those who are not will too.
.-= Gail @ Social Media Marketing´s last blog ..Search Engine Positions: Easy Free Ways to Track =-.
Twitter: @lasvegashomes
Some really great points, especially about the process. As more and more sites fill the web, I think branding will become more important, especially if you plan to do any off web advertising.
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Twitter: @GrowMap
Hi Charles,
Thank you. Many logo designers don’t realize that business and blog owners do not necessarily know the technical differences between file types or the difference between CMYK and RGB. Even those that do may not be able to explain it where they can understand. That is why I researched and wrote this post.
A distinctive logo really makes a difference. There is so much noise on Social Media sites that a bright image catches the eye of both new readers and any following you develop. That is why we love the logo Joshua created for us. It really jumps out on any site.
.-= Internet Strategist @GrowMap´s last blog ..Best of GrowMap: Our Pillar Foundation Content =-.
it is the thing which makes the difference.it is the identity of your organization.which makes you different from others.it is very essential for the organization.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Yes Monika, it can make a huge difference. I find that my new logo really pops out from all the others. It makes it really easy for someone who has been here before to remember to come back. They may not really remember much about this blog; however, they may have a good feeling connected with the logo that will make them more likely to click on it and come back here.
.-= Gail @ Social Media Marketing´s last blog ..Search Engine Positions: Easy Free Ways to Track =-.
Twitter: @alinkbuilder
For a website a wonderful logo is must.and i think wonderful points given and i will keep use of it actually I have been delaying creating one.
Interesting record it is necessary to put at itself a reference
Logo designs play an important role in the marketing strategies of a business.Logo design in today’s world is totally under rated. People do not understand how important a good logo is and how valuable it is to their business.
I didn’t know some people spend thousands on logos. For a small website I would definitely opt for the low end or even do it yourself because the advantage of a better logo won’t make up for the cost unless you are a very large business who can afford to dish out a lot of money for a logo.
Twitter: @GrowMap
If you only need one for your Avatar and Web site you can use an inexpensive one. Businesses that also use print media and offline advertising should invest the money to get a professional package so that they present a consistent brand across all they do.
.-= Gail @ Social Media Marketing´s last blog ..BizLuv MEME: How to Support Your Fav Businesses =-.
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Wow, thanks for the well thought out description when considering logo design. I carefully read the entire post.
I spent $5000 for a logo design a few years ago. It was good work, however I missed a few questions upfront that came back to bite. I needed the archival disk with additional formats. I also needed changes after initial approval. Both of these cost me extra.
In the end, i got a great logo design. You would expect as much for the price.
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Something is a little trusted, and it is a pity
One of the more outstanding ideas someone has come up with – really in my eyes, very useful information for my business because creating logo is not easy as it seems you should know everything about logo design before creating it.
Lovely post i must say, I showed that you have a great interest in business. I loved it too. I am looking for logo design but now after reading this post i don’t think i have to look for other information. Thanks for sharing lovely well written
$1000s of dollars in business is made/lost based on logos, yet companies choose to go without them for some reason!
A note about logos: simpler is better. They end up on tshirts, letterhead, pins, etc. Not just your website, where all that detail shows.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hello Paris,
You are correct. Simple and distinctive are musts when you intend to use a design on very smalFavicons and very large billboards and everything in between.
.-= Gail @ Social Media Marketing´s last blog ..MEME: BizLuv in Support of Small Businesses =-.
And place your logo on EVERYTHING. You may not like NASCAR, but you WILL remember the companies that advertise there because short of their jock straps, they put their sponsor logos on anything a sticker will stick to.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Great tip and one that is often neglected. Your logo belongs on EVERYTHING from stationary and business cards to bumper stickers and the signage on your company vehicles.
.-= Gail @ Social Media Marketing´s last blog ..Wedding Boom Predicted for Next 22 Years =-.
Twitter: @muqtada123
From my point of view the logo worth till your brand worth for your business because in the website logo is the major part that sketch and boost up your business.
It would be hard to put a price on the value of a memorable logo, but it brings a lot of ‘unknown’ value. You won’t really know how many people remember or are familiar with your logo!
Twitter: @GrowMap
Hi Cash,
Yes, you are correct. Many people want to measure everything and sometimes that is simply not possible. The same is true of Social Media Marketing.
.-= Gail @ Social Media Marketing´s last blog ..Congratulations Murray Newlands Best Blogger Finalist, 2010 Affiliate Summit Pinnacle Awards =-.
Logos are very very important.
Design in general has changed the face of how consumers interact with products and perceive different brands.
But if I see another abstract logo with a company’s name in Helvetica font alongside it again, I’m going to sigh…
everywhere you go it’s helvetica font and an abstract logo, we need to come up with new standards in design and logo design.
i think logo is very important thing for any organization since after sometime people will recognize them from their logo and work. keep it up
Twitter: @TechChunks
What a comprehensive post on the importance of getting yourself a customized Logo that stands out for itself and helps you in creating a brand image!
Bookmarking you right away and will read this again when I hire a professional logo designer next month when we revamp TechChunks.com.
.-= TechChunks@Technology Tips and Tricks´s last blog ..Best “Technology” posts in Year 2009 =-.
Twitter: @ottorascon
This is an amazing article and I am very fortunate to have stumbled upon it. This is a great resource for all sorts of creative projects, but especially for designing logos. It’s great to see that I am not the only one that struggles to communicate the idea that designing a logo takes a lot of effort on both the designer and client. Most people think that a logo can be whipped up in Word in under 5 minutes. That just doesn’t work, though it explains why so many logos are underdeveloped. Thank you for this post. Rock on and much love from Chicago!
Twitter: @GrowMap
Welcome Otto,
As we both realize you get what you pay for – and experience and talent cost far more than what anyone can accomplish with a computer program. I see this same challenge in other disciplines from pay per click management to local search listings to SEO.
Anyone can throw some keywords into AdWords and write a quick ad but to really get results goes far beyond what most people getting paid for that service and even those working in agencies can accomplish.
My philosophy is that those who choose to excel must collaborate with only the most exceptional specialists. They will then be able to take their businesses to the top 2% while other companies struggle to survive.
I encourage you to take advantage of our KeywordLuv plugin when commenting here so that each comment becomes a valuable backlink to your Chicago Wedding photographer site.
To use it simply add @ Your Keywords after your name in the name field. For example you might use any of these:
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I also encourage you to participate in our BizLuv MEME as a fast way to get many backlinks for your business and anyone else you recommend.
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A good logo is very important and major corporations will pay a million dollars plus for their design. It is, in essence, a simple graphical representation of the ethos or meaning of your company or website, and for that reason, you should take care in crafting a suitable logo.
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The logo must integrates all the company values, with the concepts and dreams behind the company’s brand. It’s a little bit difficult to find a good designer because he needs to understand exactly which are the values of the company.
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Two spots above…no company is paying in the millions for its logo, but big companies do get the importance of image and branding.
The small companies–the ones that can benefit from it the most–tend to overlook logo, design, uniforms, vehicle wraps…all the things that project professionalism. That’s unfortunate, because as small companies they need these things to generate some sort of initial impression on new prospects.
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Very helpful information. A friend was looking at creating a logo for his company. The company has been around since the 1960’s (he took it over from his father). It never really had a logo or brand identity other than the name. So he met with a graphic artist and after several proposals, they settled on a very unique logo that fit well with the business and looked like it had alway been a part of the company name. I believe logos are important to certain companies for branding. Thank you for the article!
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Twitter: @GrowMap
Welcome Seth and thank you for your comment. I believe every blog, Web site and business really needs a quality logo. We are thrilled that Joshua agreed to create our logo for this blog and hope our post has connected others who wanted a professionally designed logo with him.
I’m off to check out your latest post and add you to my dofollow Twitter list and KeywordLuv Twitter list. I didn’t add you because I don’t see a Twitter account on your site. If you don’t use Twitter yet I highly recommend it. Our How to Get Started on FriendFeed and Twitter How-To could be helpful.
I encourage you to participate in our BizLuv MEME too.
.-= Gail @ Social Media Marketing´s last blog ..MEME: BizLuv in Support of Small Businesses =-.
Great information with nice examples. The image reminds me of McDonalds though
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It’s always nice when you can not only be informed, but also entertained! I’m sure you had fun writing this article. Excellent entry! I’m been looking for topics as interesting as this. Looking forward to your next post.
Twitter: @GrowMap
Honestly, when this much research is required it sometimes ceases to be fun but it IS always beneficial to me and my readers.
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